RE: What IS good, and how do we determine it?
June 19, 2015 at 12:53 pm
(This post was last modified: June 19, 2015 at 12:55 pm by Catholic_Lady.)
(June 19, 2015 at 8:16 am)Nope Wrote:(June 19, 2015 at 3:50 am)rexbeccarox Wrote: But you very directly contradict yourself with those two statements, along with the foundational views which you continue to back (ie. contraception, homosexuality)... how do you not see this?
I realize that sacred is a religious term but it is because I believe that life is important that I want people to have basic things such as adequate nourishment, education, health care,etc.
What does the phrase, life is sacred mean to you Catholic Lady?
If you believe that sex has more purpose than procreation then why is it wrong for two women to express their love through sex? Why shouldn't parents use birth control if they aren't having sex to reproduce?
What I mean by life is sacred is that it must be revered. To put it simply, yes, important. Like you said. But I think sacred takes it up a level from importance, at least as far as semantics is concerned. Housework is important. Education is important. Human life is very very important. A different level of importance. :-) And of course, I think life ultimately comes from God, which I think the word "sacred" implies as well.
I'd explain sex outside of husband/wife being immoral a little differently than I'd explain contraception being immoral. The reasons ultimately come down to the same point: sex is sacred/the act that brings new life. But I'd explain the 2 a bit differently.
- I'd say since sex is the act that creates new life, it speaks a certain language of commitment and family. (since those are 2 things that should go into having kids). Using it outside of that context, whether because the 2 people are not committed for life, or because the 2 people, by their very nature, can't create life, isn't keeping with its pure, authentic form. I think all sex outside husband/wife (whether opposite sex or same sex) is immoral because of this.
(I'm also going to address this because I know peole will say "what about a husband and wife who are infertile do to hysterectomy, a disorder, etc?" It is true that these people still can't have kids. But nonetheless, all the right parts are there. Two women and two men can't reproduce because of who they are by nature. In the case of an infertile couple, they can't reproduce because something just isn't working right. But all the same elements are there, by the nature of being a man and a woman together.)
- I'd say contraception is immoral because I believe it changes sex to purposely render it infertile, as I have explained in my previous posts.
Listen, I understand this makes very little sense to you all and doesn't hold much water at all unless you believe in God and believe that He had a special purpose for creating sex. I can't take God out of the picture here. I respect and understand you all's disagreement on this and would never judge anyone who felt differently.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh