RE: What IS good, and how do we determine it?
June 19, 2015 at 1:57 pm
(This post was last modified: June 19, 2015 at 1:58 pm by Catholic_Lady.)
(June 19, 2015 at 1:36 pm)abaris Wrote:(June 19, 2015 at 1:28 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Rest assured, I do not mean to control anyone.
I wasn't adressing you as a person, but the church - religion in general. For me it's on the same lines as creating junkies. The only difference being that the drugs are conditions so impossible to keep that everyone has to break them at some time. And now they have to go back to their dealer to get forgiveness. That's what I meant by controlling people. The controller is the concept of sin, reduced to the most basic human urges so that failure is inevitable.
Well, I am part of the Church and I am religious. ;-)
But I am glad you don't think I am trying to control anyone. I understand your assessment, but as someone who is part of the Church I can tell you that it is not about control. We want what is ultimately best for people, and to us that means following the moral path. But it is their choice.
(June 19, 2015 at 1:36 pm)Rhythm Wrote: It suits her just fine...Neim, clearly...... she's been telling us how well it suits her this entire time. You've simply misread her.
In the same way that my dodgy and violent past suits and suited me just fine, despite my being a "grab a beer and chill with me" kind of guy. We're complicated creatures, after all.
I agree.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh
