RE: What IS good, and how do we determine it?
June 19, 2015 at 2:11 pm
(This post was last modified: June 19, 2015 at 2:16 pm by Catholic_Lady.)
(June 19, 2015 at 1:51 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote:(June 19, 2015 at 1:15 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Yes, but listen carefully. I never said nothing is subjective. I said morality is not subjective. Since there is nothing immoral with the way people spoke, wrote, and told stories back then, you can't claim that I am contradicting myself.
He doesn't need to claim that when your unspoken premise is that morality was different back then. You impeach your own argument with your own words.
I'm sorry, I do not see where I made an unspoken premise that morality was different. Throughout this whole thread I have been repeating over and over that morality is the same.
(June 19, 2015 at 1:56 pm)Rhythm Wrote:(June 19, 2015 at 1:54 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I'm sorry, but the Church isn't forcing people to do anything.
Maybe not...but it's not for lack of trying, now is it?
I can assure we are not trying to force anyone to do anything. It is their choice.
(June 19, 2015 at 1:59 pm)Rhythm Wrote: "The best for people" as, apparently, proscribed by a non-person.
What relevance or right do they have to be included in that discussion? It's like asking a dog what's best for people. Here you are again...fucking -claiming- morality for your beliefs. I think I'm supposed to believe, for the sake of nicety, that you don't realize it....but I don't believe that at all, at this point.
Everyone has opinions on morality. We are no different. We have certain opinions about what is right and what is wrong, just like everyone else, and if people want to follow us, they can. If not, that's their choice. No forcing. :-)
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh
