Technological Immortality

[James Redford]

What's all this about? Something to do with physics and... the bible? I'm feeling there's gotta be an underpants gnomes argument in there.

If you have found him, tell him to stop dicking around and come talk to us in a civilised manner.

Hi, Robvalue. What this (as in, our entire existence) is all about is that existence is nothing more than pure mathematics playing itself out. And mathematics is infinite.

The reason the universe exists is because everything comes from nothing, mathematically and logically speaking (which is to say, foundationally speaking, i.e., fundamentally speaking). Thus:

0+0 = 0

-1+1 = 0

-2+2 = 0

-3+3 = 0

-4+4 = 0

And so on, literally ad infinitum.

That is to say, we exist within the nothingness. Or rather, that the nothingness is everythingness, mathematically and logically speaking.

The above is actually just the traditional Christian theological doctrine of creatio ex nihilo, i.e., creation from nothing. That is to say, the traditional Christian theological position of creatio ex nihilo maintains that God did not create the universe from preexisting material, or from His own substance (i.e., the Divine Substance), but rather that the material which makes up the universe came into being with the universe, i.e., that it came into being literally from nothing. Hence: creatio ex nihilo, i.e., creation from nothing.

For much more on this matter, see my following article, which details physicist and mathematician Prof. Frank J. Tipler's Omega Point cosmology and the Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity/Standard Model Theory of Everything (TOE) correctly describing and unifying all the forces in physics. The Omega Point cosmology demonstrates that the known laws of physics (viz., the Second Law of Thermodynamics, General Relativity, and Quantum Mechanics) require that the universe end in the Omega Point: the final cosmological singularity and state of infinite informational capacity having all the unique properties traditionally claimed for God, and of which is a different aspect of the Big Bang initial singularity, i.e., the first cause. The Omega Point cosmology has been published and extensively peer-reviewed in leading physics journals.

* James Redford, "The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of Everything", Social Science Research Network (SSRN), Sept. 10, 2012 (orig. pub. Dec. 19, 2011), 186 pp., doi:10.2139/ssrn.1974708, https://archive.org/download/ThePhysicsO...of-God.pdf , http://sites.google.com/site/physicothei...of-God.pdf .

Additionally, in the below resource are different sections which contain some helpful notes and commentary by me pertaining to multimedia wherein Prof. Tipler explains the Omega Point cosmology and the Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity/Standard Model TOE.

* James Redford, "Video of Profs. Frank Tipler and Lawrence Krauss's Debate at Caltech: Can Physics Prove God and Christianity?", alt.sci.astro, Message-ID: jghev8tcbv02b6vn3uiq8jmelp7jijluqk[at sign]4ax[period]com , July 30, 2013, https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/...QWt4KcpMVo , http://archive.is/a04w9 .

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Hi, Dyresand. The known laws of physics provide the mechanism for the universe's collapse. As required by the Standard Model of particle physics, the net baryon number was created in the early universe by baryogenesis via electroweak quantum tunneling. This necessarily forces the Higgs field to be in a vacuum state that is not its absolute vacuum, which is the cause of the positive cosmological constant. But by sapient life annihilating the baryons in the universe via the inverse of baryogenesis, again via electroweak quantum tunneling (which is allowed in the Standard Model, as baryon number minus lepton number, B - L, is conserved), this will force the Higgs field toward its absolute vacuum, cancelling the positive cosmological constant and thereby forcing the universe to collapse. Moreover, this process will provide the ideal form of energy resource and rocket propulsion during the colonization phase of the universe.

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Hi, LastPoet. I never said that. However, some apes are smarter than others.

To annihilate bayrons for starters we would have to talk about anti matter it could exist in our current universe but it would be such a small amount of it would be rare.
Then producing anti matter now it would interesting even for such a small minuscule amount even then containing it would also be dangerous. We do not simply have the power
or the technology here on earth to destroy a universe the universe as of now is simply recycling itself.

Hi, Dyresand. The laws of physics allow baryon annihilation using electroweak quantum tunneling via quantum coherence. As physicist and mathematician Prof. Frank J. Tipler writes, "Atoms have energy levels that differ by a few electron volts. Quantum coherence among a trillion atoms would allow the atoms to concentrate the energy differences of the levels on a single atom, and this would be 10 TeV, the amount of energy needed for the baryon-annihilation process to go forward." (See Frank J. Tipler, The Physics of Christianity [New York: Doubleday, 2007], p. 73.)

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What's all this about? Something to do with physics and... the bible?

One hell of a strange mix.  :huh:

Hi, AFTT47. Fiction has to be believable in order to be good (the so-called "suspension of disbelief"), whereas reality is under no such constraint (i.e., reality doesn't care if any believes in it or not).

""
'T is strange,--but true; for truth is always strange;
Stranger than fiction; if it could be told,
How much would novels gain by the exchange!
How differently the world would men behold!
How oft would vice and virtue places change!
The new world would be nothing to the old,
If some Columbus of the moral seas
Would show mankind their souls' antipodes.

What 'antres vast and deserts idle' then
Would be discover'd in the human soul!
What icebergs in the hearts of mighty men,
With self-love in the centre as their pole!
What Anthropophagi are nine of ten
Of those who hold the kingdoms in control
Were things but only call'd by their right name,
Caesar himself would be ashamed of fame.
""
--Lord George Gordon Noel Byron (1788-1824), Don Juan, Canto XIV, Stanza 101, http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/21700 .