(June 20, 2015 at 11:05 am)Randy Carson Wrote: Everything we "learn" apart from personal experience is based upon the rational idea that we can "believe" what reliable people tell us.
No. It's based on evidence that even figures of authority in scientific fields need to present.
Quote:In the mind of a child who has no real ability to cognitively deal with the concept of eternity, the pain of a spanking in the principal's office might be more scary.
Physical abuse is prohibited in schools.
It doesn't matter if the child has a concept of eternity or not, it has a concept of pain and knows forever means a long time.
Quote:Fair enough. But if it is that bad, then I'm pretty confident that whatever happened to YOU, it's is not the common experience of kids growing up in the Catholic Church.
Never said it was.
Quote:For a moment, I'm going to be coldly rational.
1. Your experience cannot be generalized to every other Catholic.
That's why it isn't.
Quote:2. Your anger and hurt would be rightly focused on the individuals involved but wrongly attributed to the entire Catholic Church.
I've already said more than once than I don't blame anybody besides those responsible. I hate catholicism for what it teaches, not what I experienced.
Quote:3. Your resentment against God is understandable but off-target.
Really? -_-
I don't hate god. What is a god? I don't hate things I don't believe in.
I do hate when theists tell me I hate god.
Quote:I don't know what your experience was, but I'm pretty sure that until you begin to address it correctly, the healing can't begin.
With all due respect Randy, fuck off.
You should've left it at 'I don't know what your experience was'. Don't go into this.
Quote:Nothing. Which is why it is not a common Catholic approach to disciplining children.
Not common, not on the global scale. But it does happen sometimes.
