What IS good, and how do we determine it?

[Jenny A]

And, I'm not the least bothered by the man who does her in his head.  What he does in the space of his own mind is fine by me.  Seriously.  In the case of imagining sex I'm really, really not bothered.  In the case of imaging murder, I'm only bothered if he's working himself up to the actual crime by thinking it out rather than just fantasizing.  It's acts in the real world that concern me.

Now, there are circumstances in which if someone obsesses about sex with a woman he can't have, or murder that he might hurt himself mentally.  That is a good reason for not obsessing, but the victim would be himself not others.

That's fine, Jenny, but this is just your personal opinion. God has called us to a higher standard.

The irony of this is that you know this is true because everyone goes absolutely ballistic when a Catholic priest commits a sin. Why? Because it is understood even by atheists that Christians are supposed to live by a higher standard. When they fail to do so, the hypocrisy is seen by all.

I doubt anyone would go ballistic outside of other priests to discover, say pornography in a priest's possession or that they masturbate (and I'm pretty sure they do).  It's actual child molestation that's the problem.   And the outrage is not about the priests so much as the church covering it up and setting them up to do it over and over in new communities.

So, it's perfectly okay to be consumed by hatred as long as....what? I don't say or do anything to anyone else?

Morally? Yes.  For your own health no.  It would be a lousy way to live.  

And if such a god existed and he did know them, then I would appreciate very much if he didn't spy and left people's inner thoughts to themselves.   You proposed standard is reminiscent of Orwell's 1984 and replacing Big Brother with god makes it no better.

That is exactly the point I have made again and again concerning the "evidence" of God that you and others keep demanding.

If God were to intrude into our individual lives in visible ways, then you and others would resent Him.

So, sending people to hell isn't intruding?  There aren't other kinds of evidence than mind reading or personal intrusion?  Really?  You've got to be kidding.