RE: What IS good, and how do we determine it?
June 20, 2015 at 10:02 pm
(This post was last modified: June 20, 2015 at 10:05 pm by Catholic_Lady.)
(June 20, 2015 at 9:58 pm)KevinM1 Wrote:(June 20, 2015 at 9:49 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: No, he is correct. I just did a poor job of referring to the trinity.
Fair enough. However, other Christians on here have given varying accounts of the trinity (Drich, for example, believes the word 'god' is a title, and that Jesus was, indeed, a completely separate entity from the father god entity), so my larger point still remains.
These kinds of fundamental differences on the basics of your religion is why there are over 40,000 sects of Christianity alone, and one of the reasons why we scoff at the idea that any particular flavor is actually the right one. That there is so much difference in opinion on how the trinity works, how god judges (good works more important than belief and obedience?), the nature of hell, etc. really only highlights how vague the source material actually is.
It is a concept that is beyond our comprehension. There are different ways of explaining it in order to try to bring it down to a human level so that we can understand it better. There are elements that divide Christianity into different denominations, but I don't think the Trinity is one of them.
Is that correct Randy Carson? (the former protestant lol)
(June 20, 2015 at 9:59 pm)Mr.wizard Wrote:(June 20, 2015 at 9:53 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: God and Jesus are one and the same. You are referring to them as individual entities separate from each other.
Well, you said god sent jesus to die for our sins but jesus could opt out because he has free will. God is omniscient and would of known in advance what the people would do and everything he would do as jesus, so opting out was really never an option. Also sacrificing yourself to yourself to circumvent rules you created in order to satisfy yourself seems completely ridiculous, don't you think?
1. I should have more accurately said the Father sent Jesus. They are both God, along with the Holy Spirit. It's what we refer to as the Trinity.
2. It is ridiculous. I have never heard that before in my 29 years of Catholicism.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh
