(June 20, 2015 at 9:59 pm)Mr.wizard Wrote:(June 20, 2015 at 9:53 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: God and Jesus are one and the same. You are referring to them as individual entities separate from each other.
Well, you said god sent jesus to die for our sins but jesus could opt out because he has free will. God is omniscient and would of known in advance what the people would do and everything he would do as jesus, so opting out was really never an option. Also sacrificing yourself to yourself to circumvent rules you created in order to satisfy yourself seems completely ridiculous, don't you think?
The story of Jesus is ridiculous for many reasons.
1. God placing the Tree of Knowledge in easy reach of Adam and Eve
2. God doing a piss poor job of explaining why they shouldn't eat the fruit
3. God creating an inherently curious species - homo sapiens
4. God freaking the hell out and cursing humanity for the poorly defined/explained 'crime' of two
5. God deciding to forgive humanity by sending himself(?) down to live among them, ultimately to get killed by them in order to undo the curse. Even though he's, you know, god who created humanity in his own image, is the creator of everything, and should be able to understand humanity by virtue of his supposed omniscience. Oh, and the blood sacrifice doesn't stick since he decides death sucks three days later.
God is often described by a parent metaphor. If that's the case, he failed to baby proof his house, the when the baby inevitably broke something, he decided to throw the baby out of the house. Once the baby turned 18, they reconciled, but then he committed suicide in front of his kid.
Yeah, that's the being I wanna worship.
"I was thirsty for everything, but blood wasn't my style" - Live, "Voodoo Lady"