RE: What IS good, and how do we determine it?
June 20, 2015 at 10:36 pm
(This post was last modified: June 20, 2015 at 10:38 pm by Catholic_Lady.)
(June 20, 2015 at 10:20 pm)Mr.wizard Wrote:(June 20, 2015 at 10:16 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: "Also sacrificing yourself to yourself to circumvent rules you created in order to satisfy yourself seems completely ridiculous, don't you think?"
That is the story of jesus, god sent himself in human form to die in order to fulfill the sacrificial law that he created.
This is true, but I've never heard it that way. "Satisfy yourself?", "Circumvent rules you created?"
This does not portray an accurate account of what happened.
(June 20, 2015 at 10:25 pm)whateverist Wrote:(June 20, 2015 at 10:16 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: "Also sacrificing yourself to yourself to circumvent rules you created in order to satisfy yourself seems completely ridiculous, don't you think?"
So I take it you agree it is ridiculous but don't see how anyone can take that away from church doctrine?
I'll let someone who is up on their scriptures make that link. I find it pretty funny myself.
It is not being portrayed accurately.
(June 20, 2015 at 10:33 pm)Randy Carson Wrote:(June 20, 2015 at 10:20 pm)Mr.wizard Wrote: That is the story of jesus, god sent himself in human form to die in order to fulfill the sacrificial law that he created.
That's the basic Christian message. According to John, Jesus said it this way:
14 "Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the wilderness, so the Son of Man must be lifted up, 15 that everyone who believes may have eternal life in him. 16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. 19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. 20 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed. 21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what they have done has been done in the sight of God."
^Yes.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh
