What IS good, and how do we determine it?

[Catholic_Lady]

Well, for one thing, Jesus and God are one and the same. But yes, God sent a part of himself (whom we refer to as the Son) to die for us. But Jesus  could still have chosen to opt out of it. He still had free will. Being God, Jesus could have saved himself but chose to die voluntarily at the hands of the people.  

^This seems like a far cry from "God killed Jesus and God thinks killing is ok."

(emphasis is mine)

So, jeebus committed suicide for our sins. But isn't suicide a sin?!? How can a sin resolve other sins? You kathy-licks are a silly bunch.

I think choosing to not resist the enemy does not constitute as suicide.

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When you say "to satisfy Himself" it gives off the perception of selfishness and self gratification. Yes, it does make Him happy to see us happy with him in Heaven because He loves us so much. So technically, it is "satisfactory" in that sense. But it's like giving someone you love a great gift and then being happy to see them happy with it. Would you call your motives "self satisfying?"

Also, God could have "circumvented" the laws anyway He wanted. But none would have made such an impression and shown such love as coming down to die a horrible death for us on the cross. That was a physical way for us to see how much we mean to Him and what He's willing to do for us. Showing us this love helps bring more people in too, which is ultimately what He wants.

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Please see above.

Im not sure who else the sacrifice would of been satisfying if not god, since he was the one who made sacrifice the requirement for atonement.

For us.

As far as everything else you wrote, all I can say is you have a sick idea of what love is and how someone shows they love one another.

There is no greater love than to die for somebody.

I'm sorry you feel that way about me, but I respect your opinion.