What IS good, and how do we determine it?

[Ravenshire]

Perhaps you could point out where jeebus condemned it? Maybe even spoke against it? Gave a slave trader a dirty look?

Or, if we go looking will we find jeebus exhorting slaves to obey their masters? How can you square that with the idea that jeebus did anything other than condone it?

That was the morality of the day.


Ahhhh. But that's not what you said at first. "Chose to die" and "choosing to not resist the enemy" are not really the same thing.

He chose to die by choosing to not resist the enemy. I wouldn't call this suicide.

No comment on the subjective morality of the early first century?

If he chose to die, that's the very definition of suicide. If I push a child out from in front of a speeding bus and get run over instead, I'm still killing myself even if it is to save another. It's a special type of suicide called a noble sacrifice, but it is still a suicide.