RE: What IS good, and how do we determine it?
June 20, 2015 at 11:54 pm
(This post was last modified: June 20, 2015 at 11:55 pm by Catholic_Lady.)
(June 20, 2015 at 11:41 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote:(June 20, 2015 at 11:12 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: This is incorrect.Perhaps you could point out where jeebus condemned it? Maybe even spoke against it? Gave a slave trader a dirty look?
I really don't think a person can read the life of Jesus in its entirety and come out of it having the honest (key word) belief that Jesus condones slavery.
He told us to love everyone.... even our worst enemies who hate us. If we are supposed to treat even our worst enemy with respect, clearly, we shouldn't enslave people.
Quote:Or, if we go looking will we find jeebus exhorting slaves to obey their masters? How can you square that with the idea that jeebus did anything other than condone it?
Can you present me with the verse you are referring to? I think I can better address your question if I see the context.
Quote:That was the morality of the day.
That is what people considered moral in the day. But it never actually was moral. Remember, stoning adulterers was also considered moral at the time. Yet when it was about to happen right in front of Jesus, He stopped it, and condemned the act.
(June 20, 2015 at 11:47 pm)Mr.wizard Wrote:(June 20, 2015 at 11:44 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: He chose to die by choosing to not resist the enemy. I wouldn't call this suicide.But he sent himself there specifically to be sacrificed, I would call that suicide.
Ok.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh