RE: What IS good, and how do we determine it?
June 21, 2015 at 1:04 am
(This post was last modified: June 21, 2015 at 1:08 am by Catholic_Lady.)
(June 21, 2015 at 12:47 am)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote:(June 21, 2015 at 12:29 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Just to clarify what you're saying here, since that society considers these acts moral, is it then, moral?To them, in their society, yes it is. Do I consider it moral? No. Do I expect the society I live in to condone it? No. Can you prove that your morality is right and theirs is wrong? No.
I already know that in their society they think that killing gays and burning rape victims is moral. But do you think they are wrong in believing that? Sounds like your answer is no. Is this correct?
(sorry, I don't mean to be annoying, just wanna be sure I fully understand)
(June 21, 2015 at 12:47 am)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote:(June 21, 2015 at 12:29 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I'm not sure what you mean by this. Are you saying that Jesus should not have stopped the stoning of the adulteress?
No, I'm saying that if morality were objective, he could not have stopped the stoning of the adulteress. If the morality you hold near and dear is indeed objective, it is what it is, no matter what and cannot be changed and the morality he lived by called for her to be stoned.
Hm? What do you mean he could not have stopped it? I'm sorry. I don't understand.

(June 21, 2015 at 12:52 am)rexbeccarox Wrote: I want to know what, exactly, objective morals are. Anybody got a list?
We believe every single action is either moral, immoral, or morally neutral.
I can't make a list of every single immoral action a person can possibly take.
I've listed a few throughout this thread.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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