(June 21, 2015 at 7:31 am)Mr.wizard Wrote:(June 21, 2015 at 1:40 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Ok. I appreciate you having the patience with me here, so thank you.
So my take away from this in regards to your views is, there is no concrete, real right/wrong. There is only whatever a particular society deems fit. If a society thinks an act is moral, it is moral. If a society thinks an act is immoral, it's immoral.
Even something like setting a little girl on fire for getting raped cannot be considered objectively immoral, according to your views.
I obviously don't agree, but I can honestly say that I understand why someone who doesn't believe in a higher being would think this. In fact, it makes more sense that you do think this way if you don't believe in a higher power.
Fair enough. Thank you for the discussion on this, and I respect your views.
Well, first it obviously wasn't in line with what God said because Jesus is God and Jesus told them to stop.
Second, I'm really embarrassed by this but I still don't understand lol.
Youre saying that if morality was truly objective and those men were indeed in the wrong for stoning the woman, Jesus would have no basis for telling them they were in the wrong? I don't get it.
Randy Carson, do you understand?
Oh gosh... I'm sorry
YES. This is what I wanted to post but didn't know if it would be against the rules.
You seem to still be missing the point, if morality were truly objective you would not have two different societies with different sets of morals. The fact that you have two groups of people who cant agree on the morality of raping and burning people only proves that morality is subjective.
The reason you think I'm missing the point is because you don't understand my point.
I think that certain things are immoral becuse God made them that way. So, regardless of whether a society thinks it's moral to set a little girl on fire for being raped, it is still immoral because it goes against the laws of God. The society who thinks this is moral, is wrong.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh
