RE: What IS good, and how do we determine it?
June 21, 2015 at 12:19 pm
(This post was last modified: June 21, 2015 at 12:20 pm by Catholic_Lady.)
(June 21, 2015 at 7:43 am)Mr.wizard Wrote: I think the question of "How do we determine what's good?", should be a question religious people are asking themselves, not atheists. Since religious people are claiming to get their morality through divine command, how could they possibly know what information they are getting is correct? How do they know god is a good guy without any moral compass of their own to make such a judgement.
All those things are part of our Christian beliefs.
With that being said, these questions are basically the same as another question that has been asked here already in several different ways, "why do you believe what you believe?"
There is no simple answer, but Randy did a great job of addressing it in a way that I myself could never be eloquent enough to put into words. It's in this post, and others. If I get the chance I will look for one of them and repost it here for you.
(June 21, 2015 at 8:25 am)robvalue Wrote: I think CL wants to say that one society has it right and another has it wrong. But of course, both societies will say they have it right, and often divinely so. Neither has any "proof" that they are correct.
Close, but no. :-)
Morality does not depend on society in the first place. That is why I believe morality is unchanging, and that is why I believe certain things are wrong even if our society, or others, consider them good.
I believe morality comes from God.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh