RE: What IS good, and how do we determine it?
June 21, 2015 at 1:36 pm
(This post was last modified: June 21, 2015 at 1:38 pm by Catholic_Lady.)
(June 21, 2015 at 12:44 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote:(June 21, 2015 at 12:35 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: But what if what we think is that the Church holds the answers? And that the Catechism can do a better job of putting it into words than we can? I'd also like to point out that there have been times here where I've said something about what the Church teaches and have been told by another member that I am wrong about what the Church teaches. So I went ahead and linked to the catechism in order to prove that what I just said really is in line with Church teaching.
I am sorry you feel as though we have done a poor job of sharing our thoughts and beliefs. I'll own it and say that indeed I do have a hard time putting things into words a lot of times.
You guys seem to not grasp the difference between these two ideas.
This is okay:
C_L: "I believe x and y and z because this, that, and the other thing."
Atheist: "Well that's wrong, the church teaches b and c and d."
C_L: "Nuh uh. See this portion of the catechism:
Catechism Wrote:Snippet of the catechism or other document that supports your original point.http://www.linktocatechismpage.com"
This isn't:
"This is what I believe:
Catechism Wrote:ten pages of Catechism."
Ok.
(June 21, 2015 at 12:47 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote:(June 21, 2015 at 12:35 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: But what if what we think is that the Church holds the answers? And that the Catechism can do a better job of putting it into words than we can? I'd also like to point out that there have been times here where I've said something about what the Church teaches and have been told by another member that I am wrong about what the Church teaches. So I went ahead and linked to the catechism in order to prove that what I just said really is in line with Church teaching.
I am sorry you feel as though we have done a poor job of sharing our thoughts and beliefs. I'll own it and say that indeed I do have a hard time putting things into words a lot of times.
If you think the catechism explains it better than you can, there's no reason to be here as it's a discussion forum. No one here wants to read the catechism word-for-word, or we would just look up the catechism. If you feel you're right about it, and someone else is wrong, it's fine to quote the part you're referring to, but you have to add to the discussion by presenting your own thoughts. I have no complaints with you on that; you are doing fine, save for the couple of times we've had to let you know. You haven't gotten into any official trouble over it, and you're doing just fine, even if the majority disagrees with your conclusions.
Fair enough.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh