RE: What IS good, and how do we determine it?
June 22, 2015 at 11:58 am
(This post was last modified: June 22, 2015 at 12:00 pm by Catholic_Lady.)
(June 22, 2015 at 6:13 am)Starvald Demelain Wrote:(June 22, 2015 at 2:34 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I believe the death penalty is immoral as well, so I would be a hypocrite if I said this was moral. Unless she acted to save her child's life (which doesn't sound like it) I do not think it was a moral act.
But I do think that the woman's culpability is very much lessened if not completely eliminated due to the shock she was in. I would never condemn her or say she is a bad person.
And as you can see, even in our judicial system... murder remains a crime, but a person's verdict is subjective.
You do not have to agree with my versions of morality. Likewise, I do not agree with yours either. We can have different morals and moral standards, and that is fine. I still respect your views, and I still think you are a good person despite our differences.
A Catholic believes that losing your mind on a pedophile during the molestation of your own child is an immoral action? Forgive me if I don't gasp in surprise.
You have to remember that to me, the objective act is not the same as the person's culpability. They are 2 different things. I know you see them as one and the same, and that may be why you are having such a hard time fathoming why I think what I do.
While I believe that the objective act of killing a person outside of self defense is an inherently immoral action, I do believe that there are factors that play into a person's culpability. A person's culpability can be lessened, or completely eliminated.
In the case Becca has laid out to me, I would say this woman should be considered innocent by reason of insanity, and that her culpability of the act is eliminated given the circumstances and her mental state.
Does that make more sense?
(June 22, 2015 at 11:57 am)robvalue Wrote: CL: Thank you very much for taking the time to answer my questions
You are welcome!
Thank you for being kind. I appreciate that more than you know.
(June 22, 2015 at 6:58 am)Stimbo Wrote: Maybe Catholics have to say that. Could start a nasty precedent otherwise.
No, we can say/do what we'd like. We are not forced to act or think according to Church teaching. We always have a choice.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh
