(June 23, 2015 at 2:23 am)Neimenovic Wrote:(June 23, 2015 at 2:11 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: When I spoke of age difference above, I meant the fact that the girl would be very young (12-14ish) and the man would be a full grown man. That's the context we were talking in, so that is what I meant, though I should have clarified.
Are you saying you think this sort of marriage arrangement is inherently immoral, Neim? I'm confused. I thought you guys were the moral relativists here. Are you going to take a stand on this one?
from my perspective I see it as immoral. the people who arranged those marriages thought it was perfectly fine. Subjective, see? Nothing on its own has moral value. It needs context.
Please read carefully.
I specifically said I do not think it is just A-OK any time. I simply said I don't think this specific act is inherently immoral. Meaning I don't think Joseph and Mary, for example, were doing anything immoral by getting engaged because that was their custom at the time. And since this is not an inherently immoral act, it is not always immoral everywhere and in every situation, like acts that actually are inherently immoral. Now, do I think it would be severely inappropriate in the here and now? Absolutely. I think it would take a pretty immoral man to do that. For you to pass it on as I think it's all good and dandy is a misrepresentation of my views and comes off as kind of dishonest.
Quote:What I find appalling is that you think it's ok. That's sick.
Neim, you and I have exchanged messages and spoken to each other on a personal level. Come on. Don't refer to my views here as "appalling" and "sick". Plenty of people here have said plenty of things I vehemently disagree with, but I have more respect for all of you than to say "that's sick" and "your thinking is sick and appalling" I have respected their decision to think what they think regardless of my feelings towards it, and that's that. I don't expect the same treatment in return from most people, but from you.... I would have.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh
