(June 23, 2015 at 12:55 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Moore has (had, sorry) an odd take on scripture. He missed his calling to convert to UU.
Immolation is a VERY unusual form of suicide, I'd suspect some age related cognitive issue that went unnoticed.
Right and certainly even with non religious suicides there are indicators, medical, brain illness, or simple depression that can go unnoticed. But it is clear by his own words, and his life as described this was a religiously motivated suicide.
Again, why would this pastor get a pass on his suicide and claim it was not religious motivated, but these same people would rightfully say the second pastor threatening it was religiously motivated.
If one can quote a religion or holy book to justify any good intent, it is pure ignorance to claim that it isn't coming from the same source that others use to commit a cruel act.
Um no, read the wiki article, we commonly now refer to Immolation as suicide by fire, but that is like calling Sushi fish when it is a concept of style of presentation that can very. Suicide in this context is an act of sacrifice, it can be done many ways, fire is one of them. But so is Seppuku or Hari Kari (suicide in sacrifice to protect honor). Kamakazi same. Suicide bombers in Islam. All of them stem from the religious idea of sacrifice for the greater good.
We even see this evolutionary behavior in some insects. There are species of ants that will explode their abdomens to kill rivals. Many species of bees will die because they only have one use of their stinger which will kill them upon that one use, and commit suicide to protect the hive.
Unless we see our species behaviors in natural terms we cannot reduce either the pastor who did it with good intent, or the other pastor who did it for bigoted reasons.