(June 23, 2015 at 6:24 pm)Nope Wrote: Randy, no one is lying. The bible verse in question has been copied on this forum multiple times.
The Israelites destroyed a village and kept the young virgins. Many of these girls were probably just barely 13 or 14, maybe younger. They probably saw their entire villages destroyed by the men that they were being told to marry.
If you are forced to marry someone who kills your family and have sex with that person, yes that is rape.
Why would the girls be upset that they remained with the Canaanites who were their family members?
Again, why can't American soldiers do this now? Why can't a young soldier see a pretty Afghan girl, kill her family and bring her home for his wife? He would be marrying her, after all.
I agree the times were different but your god is all powerful and all knowing. He is the one who came up with the rules in Deuteronomy. Sometimes Christians like to claim that certain stories are just reporting historical events without judgement. The problem is that in Deuteronomy is a book of god's own rules to the Hebrews.
This is a insanely, long thread.
As usual, you are too kind in your comments. Someone certainly is lying. But I will pretend that the liar simply does not understand the word "rape":
Quote:rape
verb
[WITH OBJECT]
1(Typically of a man) force (another person) to have sexual intercourse with the offender against their will:the woman was raped at knifepoint[NO OBJECT]: he pleaded not guilty to burglary with intent to rape
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/defini...ctCode=all
Notice, nothing in the definition makes any reference to the marital status of anyone, nor is it changed by marriage.
That exactly describes what God of the Old Testament says is fine and dandy with virgin women captured in war, as long as one marries them. To pretend otherwise is dishonest.
The contorted "reasoning" to try to make the Old Testament moral reminds me of a video:
What, you say? A video of approximately 15 minutes? Well, perhaps this will get you to watch it: If you put it on full screen and watch it, for that amount of time, at least, you will not be reading the tortured "reasoning" of a certain liar here.
"A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence."
— David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.