(June 23, 2015 at 7:58 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(June 23, 2015 at 7:52 pm)IATIA Wrote: So, your god must then be immoral. That is acceptable. How does catholicism justify worshipping an immoral god?
Like I said, the Church is silent on the interpretation of these bible passages (leaving it up for the reader to form their own understanding). The Church also teaches that rape is immoral and that God does not change. Using this information, I personally believe that these stories are allegorical. I do not believe God commanded the men to forcefully marry these virgins.
I can only speak for myself and how I have come to understand this.
(June 23, 2015 at 7:53 pm)Mr.wizard Wrote: Whether you view the story as allegorical or literal, it still in no way portrays rape as immoral. Just saying that is allegorical does not answer the questions about why its sanctioned by god, it seems like just a way of avoiding the question.
I know that these passages don't portray rape as immoral. I was speaking about the Church. The Church does consider rape immoral, and at the end of the day, that's all that matters.
(June 23, 2015 at 7:56 pm)Metis Wrote: It's true what she's saying though, I suspect Randy is a former Protestant as I can detect a strong American Evangelical vibe to much of his personal theology. It's not heretical but it's rather different from the more traditional, ethereal/indefinable approach of Catholic_Lady which is more usual amongst "Cradle Catholics".
Thank you for clearing this up for Wizard on my behalf. I appreciate it.
Wait what? You just said you think the story is allegorical and that god did not command these men to rape. I pointed out that whether you think the story is allegorical or literal god was clearly commanding the men to rape.