RE: What IS good, and how do we determine it?
June 24, 2015 at 1:46 am
(This post was last modified: June 24, 2015 at 1:47 am by Catholic_Lady.)
(June 24, 2015 at 1:37 am)rexbeccarox Wrote:(June 24, 2015 at 1:25 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Infallible decisions on faith and morals. It's rare and hasn't happened for a long time, but you never know...
You never know... what, exactly? And why would you trust someone who is fallible until he claims otherwise? That's pretty circular, and completely untrustworthy. What if, say, the pope said one day, "ok- I'm declaring myself infallible. Everybody is now to worship Satan." Or what about... I dunno... the fact that a bunch of popes have denied the idea of papal infallibility full stop? Popes: the people who are supposed to be able to proclaim their own infallibility, for chrissakes.
So, really, truly, honestly: what is the point of the pope?
Sorry I did not make myself clear. What I meant was not that the pope says "ok, I'm infallible now!" But rather, he says "I have an infallible announcement to make in regards to faith or morals." ...and then he does so.
Like I said, this is very very rare.
Even though Popes are people who are still capable of making mistakes and acting immorally, we believe that when it comes to making infallible announcements, they literally cannot do so unless it is directly inspired by the holy spirit.
(June 24, 2015 at 1:40 am)rexbeccarox Wrote:(June 24, 2015 at 1:29 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I'm sure Randy believes rape is immoral. He'd be going against Church teaching if he didn't, but most importantly, he's not an evil person.
You should talk to Randy; he's made none of that clear to anyone here.
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"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh
