(June 24, 2015 at 2:22 am)rexbeccarox Wrote:(June 24, 2015 at 1:46 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Sorry I did not make myself clear. What I meant was not that the pope says "ok, I'm infallible now!" But rather, he says "I have an infallible announcement to make in regards to faith or morals." ...and then he does so.
Like I said, this is very very rare.
Even though Popes are people who are still capable of making mistakes and acting immorally, we believe that when it comes to making infallible announcements, they literally cannot do so unless it is directly inspired by the holy spirit.
What is the difference? It's still circular, whether it's him proclaiming his own infallibility, or the infallibility of his words. I realize it's rare. I read; a lot.
Can you please answer a question straight: If there have been (quite a few) popes in the past who have denied papal infallibility (and please don't correct me on this term; it's the correct one) how can you possibly believe it's true?
Hi, I don't know much about the history of what happened here to give you a great answer. Let me get back to you after I do some investigating. It's a good question.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh
