(June 24, 2015 at 5:18 pm)popeyespappy Wrote:(June 24, 2015 at 5:00 pm)abaris Wrote: I've never before seen a person so desperately trying to square a circle. Is everything about religion in your life? You give the impression of obsessing.
Brian? Obsessive? Tell me it isn't so.
Holy crap, this isn't about being "obsessed" this is about pointing out the evolutionary nature of human behavior and thought. Question someones actions outside religion, and you have more of a chance of getting them to think. Question religion and people flip out.
This is about how any type of thought process about any subject can affect what happens to you or others. The person who doesn't wear their seat belt is not thinking. The person who believes in a god is not only not thinking, they are justifying bad logic to a political degree, not just a personal bad decision.
Everything humans do in life requires input into their brain, then a response to that input. The problem is both inside and outside religion in very real evolutionary terms more often than not, our species perceptions of reality are notoriously flawed. Understanding this can help reduce bad outcomes. Much like Nadar got car companies to make better cars.
The same flawed perception that leads our species to create religions and god claims is the same flawed perception that causes a cat to gurrr or dog to bark at it's own image in a mirror. Dawkins in "The God Delusion" rightfully equates this flaw in perception as "the moth mistaking the light bulb for moonlight". It is the same flawed perception that can have a kid believe that the bowl of covered olives at the Halloween party in the dark room are eyeballs.
In the case of the person who constantly doesn't wear their seat belt, may get away of not being injured for a time, but do it enough eventually it will affect you. Simply doing something because you can, or because it is popular, or because you have not been hurt before by your own logic, does not mean you have a good sample rate or thought process to lead you to your decision making.
Religion is dangerous, not as a claim that you can get rid of it, but it is dangerous because more than any other claim humans make, it is the most political and those religious people make moral claims and have weapons. But the flawed logic that the person not wearing their seat belt isn't a religion, but both are still based on flawed logic.
You can believe all you want that speeding will never affect you or others on the road, but eventually, keep doing that or thinking that, you either end up with a ticket, or in a wreck or dead.
My post is not an "obsession" anymore than saying gravity is real. Our species inside and outside religious issues can have very flawed perceptions of reality, but only religion gets special treatment. This post is not a call to create a godless utopia, but an explanation of evolutionary behavior.
The only difference between the guy on the street corner claiming he gets investment advice from his dog, and a guy who wears a costume and reads an antiquated book is the popularity of the delusion. I bring seat belts into it because at one time most people stupidly thought seat belts were a bane on there personal comfort, but Nadar proved that the data proved that they saved lives and car companies eventually adapted.
The foot dragging by car companies on safety is the same clinging to the past "just because" that religion stubbornly does on bad claims.