(June 25, 2015 at 12:34 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(June 25, 2015 at 12:18 pm)Neimenovic Wrote: We're talking about an omnipotent god who wants us to worship him. You'd think he'd make sure everybody got the memo, wouldn't you?
I believe that He's not a micromanager. He leaves it up to us Christians to spread the word.
Quote:Oh, but you said morality comes from god.
I'm sorry but it looks as though you misunderstood. I never said that. What I said was that I believe God created the concept of morality. Not that people can't be moral unless they believe in God.
Quote:Not what I said. Don't put words in my mouth.
I said that teaching critical thinking skills and teaching to believe a certain religion are mutually exclusive. Which they are. Teaching the conclusion and teaching to arrive at conclusions by way of reasoning are mutually exclusive.
My apologies. I misunderstood.
I should correctly say that a person can still be taught to use critical thinking skills, even if they are taught a particular faith. There are other subjects to learn from besides religion, where they will learn to use their critical thinking to come up with the right answers. Adding religion in there doesn't take away someone's ability to learn and use critical thinking.
Quote:God needs to have a cause. Who designed the designer?
I believe God is supernatural and isn't confined to the laws of nature. I believe He has always existed and was not designed by anyone.
Quote:Yea. One way to do that us to not tell them what to believe.
Sure, but teaching them about my faith, like teaching them anything else, won't automatically mean that they'll just blindly follow. I would encourage them to make sure they believe for themselves and not just because I told them.
as to indocrination (although thats not the direct topic but ultimatly comes to this) lets take for example the Aztec. 600 years ago they were a sophisticated set of sun worshiping human sacrificing civilizations. They were doing fine they just hadn't got around to metal. they were too busy building some of the greatest architechure in the world with out all that unnesseccary tech like metal tools.
then "BAM" in comes columbus and Catholocism. History will tell you it wasn't a pretty meeting between the two. If not for the massive amount of diseases the typical Europeon carried they would have kicked the spanish (catholic) butts right back to queen Isable's lovely bossom. Eventualy those great native americans were able to throw off the spanish rule but not before they were TOTALLY indocrinated into Catholosism. Despite the mass murder, wether by direct killing in the mines or by disease, the mexican identifies with being catholic. WHY? because indocrination works. I wont say you shouldn't teach your children about your faith. that's not my place to do so. However i would urge all parents to wait untill critical thinking skills are learned I.E. they understand that santa, the tooth fairy, and the easter bunny are not real. I mean no offence but look around. How many christian bilboards do you see on average in America. Now look for any that are Hindu or Budhist or muslem....... nope nothing. you might see a pagen pentagram on some one's door. that's all i'm going to say about that on this post but just look around Christianity is EVERYWHERE.