What IS good, and how do we determine it?

[Catholic_Lady]

Wait, wait...

If there is supposed to be this objective morality which comes from God that he has somehow implanted in us so we know things like rape and slavery are wrong, why was he implanting people at the time of Jesus with a different set of morals so that they clearly didn't think or know slavery and rape are wrong?

It just goes to show how messed up things were getting. Yes, I believe we are all born with a certain sense of right and wrong for big things like that, but if society teaches us differently, we become conditioned/brainwash to believe it's ok because we've never seen anything different.

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I defended his point simply to show he neither condones rape, nor thinks God condones rape. That seemed very clear to me, but people were still accusing him of it for some reason, so I figured I'd clarify. It's not my argument, it's not what I think happened, so I have no answer for your question. Ask Randy.

Well for me if he believes the stories in the old testament are true and takes the position that if god was ordering it than it wasn't really rape, then in my eyes he is condoning rape. He is trying to get around condoning rape by pretending that kidnapping a woman, forcing her to marry you and having sex with her, is not rape.

From what I understood, he (randy) still belives those things are wrong and that God does not condone them. But believes God had to integrate Himself slowly, otherwise it wouldn't have made a difference.

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Thank you everyone again for participating in my thread. I appreciate you taking the time to do so.

My parents and little brother are flying down to visit for the next few days and they will be here this evening! I've been cleaning up and preparing the place for them, so I will be unavailable for the rest of today until next week. :-)

Thanks again, hope everyone has a great weekend!