What IS good, and how do we determine it?

[abaris]

It is supposed to be a tu quoque argument, which is fallacious, but it even fails at that.  Sam Harris in the quote does not say rape is okay.  The quote indicates that religion is worse than rape, not that rape is okay.

Yeah, I voiced my surprise he's resorting to tu quoque.

But in my case it's a triple failure, since for me Sam Harris is pretty much on the same lines as Randy. His argument is idiotic to use a friendly term, even if he doesn't outright condone rape. And that's the general problem I have when it comes to Harris. He's blurted out many dubious things in his career. I'm certainly not in his fan club and don't attribute him with any authority.

But let's not make this about Harris, since what Randy does, is painting all atheists with the same brush and never accepting that there is no general line of thinking, only individuals. As opposed to his ilk with their dogma and their holy book.