(June 25, 2015 at 1:58 am)Minimalist Wrote:In fact, the whole concept of racial inferiority or superiority is probably the baby of the Abrahamic religions. Where else do you see this? Now if the ancient Hebrews we dark of complexion, that poses a problem for the Muslims since in the Hadith we are told that Muhammad was white. How then could he be the descendent of Ishmael? It poses a problem for a lot of folks. This isn't a digression from the current discussion since the Muslim-led transcontinental slave trade predates the European transatlantic slave trade by several hundred years.(June 24, 2015 at 7:32 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: So should I stop using Dark & Lovely shampoo?
No Solomon. That's deep. I'm going to study that. Particularly if there are any extra-biblical writings about the queen of Sheba.
Our original discussion was about how the Jews treated non Jewish slaves and whether the difference was due to racial or tribal differentiation. I don't even know how to begin to argue such a point here. What would race mean during that time? Or even now. I knew a guy from Sri Lanka who had really straight hair but his skin was as black as the ace of spades. Yet. he did not think of himself as black in the same way that I am black. So what the fuck does it mean?
I guess the first depends on how happy you are with your hair. Long training has taught me to always say "that looks nice, dear."
There is the Kebra Nagast...but that is just Ethiopian bullshit. There was a very valuable spice trade between Assyria and SW Yemeni kingdom of the Sabeans. One would expect that this lucrative trade would result in extravagant wealth on both termini of the route and certainly Nineveh in Assyria qualified. In the 8-7th centuries BC even the vassal states of Assyria along the route, Judah, Edom, Moab, prospered. But Solomon and Sheba? No. Just bible bullshit. Perhaps the ruler of Sabea sent a couple of female slaves to Shalmaneser to give a proxy blowjob? I could buy that.
Take a look at this wall painting from the tomb of Seti I.
Seti was pharaoh c 1300 BC. Above are the various subject peoples of his empire. Libyans, Nubians, Canaanites, Hurrians, and Egyptians....all under the watchful eye of Horus.
No one is depicted any differently. All are Seti's loyal subjects. Clearly the painter comprehended the difference in skin tone as well as costume but that's about the extent of it. Egypt would have been one of the few places where different "races" came together.
Certainly people knew that there were black people in the world as in the early 7th century the 25th Dynasty (the Nubian Dynasty) pharaoh Taharqa campaigned against the Assyrians in the region. I doubt that anyone would have regarded such a powerful king and his army as inferior to anything.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
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I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire
Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.