(June 27, 2015 at 4:00 am)Huggy74 Wrote: Here's how.
Your quote: "Huggy was on a certain rape-related issue in the bible, and his entire position was that no rape happened because the actual word "rape" was never used in the text, despite the context making it very clear what was happening."
If it is "clear" that a rape occurred (after all rape is pretty straight forward seeing how there has to be two consenting parties), making an excuse for the act is trying to justify it by definition.
Not within the context of your stated position on the issue. It's clear to me that rape occurred, it's clear contextually that this is occurring, but your position, as you made it, was that no, actually rape wasn't happening, which means that you weren't justifying it. That's something supported by the context of the thread too, by the way, which wasn't that you were willing to justify atrocities, but rather that you were willing to read the bible in a ridiculously overly literal way in order to argue that such atrocities never happened at all.
What you're trying to argue now is essentially that someone saying, for example, "the holocaust never happened," is actually asserting that the holocaust really did happen, but that it was justified. Is that your position? When you say that it's not slavery in the bible, are you actually saying that it is slavery, but that's okay? Or are you actually saying that there isn't slavery? Because those are two different claims, and you can't be attempting to justify something you don't think exists.
Quote:You're still wrong on slavery. The bible pretty clear on it being wrong to force someone into "slavery" against their will. So is it "slavery" if you became a servant of your own volition?
You're wrong: the bible specifically dictates that you can take slaves from the heathens around you, with no attention paid to the origins of those slaves beyond that.
By the way, Paul disagrees with you: in Philemon he specifically sends a runaway slave back to his master, so this idea that consent is needed to be a slave is bullshit even within the context of your own bible. Are you saying that you know more about this than Paul?
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