(June 30, 2015 at 4:21 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Taking another stroll down the path of dishonesty are we?
Still unable to shake off this false dichotomy where people are either right, or lying, are you?
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Quote: There is no explicit law against beating ANYONE period! remember the story of Jesus beating the money changers in the temple?
As if this makes it better?
Quote:(June 30, 2015 at 2:16 pm)Esquilax Wrote: 2. Insofar as the bible addresses the issue at all, it excuses it, offering no consequences for an act that, in most other contexts, it would consider murder and actually offer consequences for.Wrong again!
Hebrew law is very clear on distinguishing murder from killing someone unintentionally (manslaughter). If you commit murder then you were punished by the authorities, In the case of manslaughter the family of the victim had a right to kill you (eye for an eye) unless you made it to a city of refuge. Beating a slave and him dying days later show that the death wasn't intentional, and though the law doesn't punish you, it doesn't mean the victims family won't come after you.
I'll post the relevant scriptures from the NIV since it's dumbed down enough for you mouth-breathers to understand.
Sigh.
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(June 30, 2015 at 2:16 pm)Esquilax Wrote: 2. Insofar as the bible addresses the issue at all, it excuses it, offering no consequences for an act that, in most other contexts, it would consider murder and actually offer consequences for.
I am well aware that there is a distinction between murder and manslaughter, Huggy. It is, however, an irrelevant distinction, because both crimes have an ascribed punishment in the bible, and yet beating a slave to death does not. In fact, the bible explicitly dismisses the idea that a slave owner should be punished for that. If you're going to assert that the family can still come after you, then you're just adding additional content not actually in the text to make yourself feel better. It really is just your fantasy.
Besides, the verses you quote specify a "neighbor," but we already know that the neighbors in this context have special laws for slavery that don't apply to the other kinds of slaves that are being discussed in the Exodus passage. It's not applicable in the least.
Quote:I guess since I debunked your two "facts" this is irrelevant? But I must ask, since there is no law against beating ANYONE, do you think that means it's ok to walk around beating people without cause?
So, it's your claim that a book that will explicitly make laws against boiling goats in their mother's milk just happened to skip over this more important thing and just assumed that they'd get that it's against god's will anyway? The same book that wouldn't make the same assumption regarding murder?
Quote:You were saying?
Just admit you messed up.. sheesh
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You really have no fucking shame at all, do you?
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