RE: What IS good, and how do we determine it?
July 2, 2015 at 3:43 am
(This post was last modified: July 2, 2015 at 3:43 am by Huggy Bear.)
(July 2, 2015 at 3:07 am)Cato Wrote: Ah yes, the humility of Christ on display in one of his most ardent followers.So you can dish it out but not take it? I'll let the bible insult you then..
The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” - Psalm 14:1
(July 2, 2015 at 3:07 am)Cato Wrote: Huggy, I used the link you provided to definitively demonstrate that despite Denmark's constitution prescribing an official state government that the country is secular.Huh?
(July 2, 2015 at 3:07 am)Cato Wrote: This is measured by less than 5% of the populace regularly attending service and the fact that Denmark has had five avowed 'atheists' as head of state. Did you also miss the fact that there is only one party that overtly displays their Christian religion, and they haven't won a seat in the legislature since 2001? I'm pretty sure this meets any reasonable definition of a secular government as it is practiced.
What amuses me is that to my knowledge, the United States is the only explicit secular country by definition; given of course by the Establishment Clause in the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States. Perhaps you didn't get the news, it was ratified in 1791.
You of course will continue to say and believe anything you wish; however, you are simply wrong. There's no amount of hope, deflection, obfuscation, or praying that will change the fact that you are demonstrably wrong. Got it yet? You're fucking wrong!
Since you refuse to define what a having a "secular government" means, ill use Pandæmonium's definition.
http://atheistforums.org/thread-30615-po...#pid835049
(January 3, 2015 at 8:58 pm)Pandæmonium Wrote: Secularism Gurantees what ive highlighted you suggest in the above post. It gives people the ability to chose a religion (or no-religion) without the state choosing for then. It prevents a state mandated religion from either existing or enforcing it's rules and dogmas on the body politic.*emphasis mine*
Now if that's not the 'freedom to chose' I don't know what is.
Tell us what your definition of secularism is. Where do you think it came from and what do you think it seeks to achieve?
Do you agree with that definition?
If that is what secularism is, then DENMARK'S GOVERNMENT IS CLEARLY NOT SECULAR.
Got it?