Calling it into question...

[Redbeard The Pink]

I'm sorry but how in the fuck would you scientifically prove something  that science can't even begin to answer? And get this you fuck; I know what the fuck I know because I was shone. The Lord had mercy on me. It's that ducking simple. I have had a close relationship with our being ever since. You have no clue. Existence is our God. The fucking opporrunity to reign over all things that we observe. What, that was just from some dust? No fucking way are we so fucking privileged to just happen to be here with the greatness we have just  cuz. Are you so fucking shallow that you can't understand that science can't define or even remotely interpret some things? Science is a tool for understanding things. It breaks things down into smaller pieces. How are you going to break something down that isn't material?

Get your head out of your ass.

You are the one who doesn't know. I assure you.

You were shown, you say? How grand. Can you show me? When were you shown? Was anyone else there?


Oh, wait...you mean you were shown in your head, weren't you? Some kind of vision, or maybe just a bunch of warm fuzzies? I had a feeling...well, I've been shown that the god of the christians is inherently paradoxical and an obvious work of mythical fiction. You know what showed me that? THE FUCKING EVIDENCE!


So anyway, you go on to forward a lot of claims without directly refuting or addressing very much of what I said. You mostly just go "BLARGH WHAT DO YOU MEAN I'M WRONG?! YOU'RE WRONG! BLARGH!"


I never really said anything about scientifically proving anything, but since you bring it up, yes, science can actually begin to answer the question of whether god exists.


While the existence of god cannot be disproven (one could always say you're just not looking hard enough or just haven't found him yet), the nonexistence of god CAN be disproven; all anyone would have to do is come up with one measly shred of good evidence for the existence of any of the literal millions of gods that supposedly might be out there, and the hypothesis fails completely. Because of this, if science considers the question of god's existence, the default position is non-belief until evidence proves otherwise. That's how science begins to answer the question. Theists have been trying to finish the answer since the dawn of man, and they can't fucking do it because they have no evidence. Period.


Who says we're privileged, anyway, or that we're somehow better or different from other animals? So we think a little better...so what? That's a matter of evolution and has nothing to do with being god's chosen species or some such nonsense. You're acting like we have some divinely inspired dominion over this world, but there's no evidence of that. We've overrun the world and we're pretty much at the top of the food chain, but those are matters of evolution, not traits of some divine gift of power.


I'd go on to address some of the rest of what you said, but honestly you're mostly just blathering angrily, spouting ad hominem, and not making sense. The only other thing I could really say is that your personal feelie-weelies inside your head mean exactly dick in terms of evidence of a claim. They are no more valid or demonstrable to reality than the wild visions of a madman.


The funniest thing about all of this is that you're essentially calling me stupid and shallow when you're obviously less scientifically and logically literate than I am, and you've actually admitted to being less religiously literate than I am. By your own account, you have not even read the New Testament. I have. I've read the whole bible and have a comprehensive knowledge of most of what I've read. I've also read a host of secondary christians writings, I've studied various world religions of both the east and the west, and I have a strong command of christian apologetics. If anything, I should be the one admonishing you for a lack of knowledge and understanding.


Since you haven't read the New Testament, I'll gift you with this to get you started. It's a parable directly from the mouth of Jesus (with some re-translation and paraphrasing, and you maybe shouldn't take the whole thing literally, but it's the inerrant word of gawd...just trust me):


"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)


You're welcome to look that up for yourself. It's in any bible you'll pick up. I think the original text is in Aramaic or Greek or something and contains some nonsense about a speck and a mote (whatever the fuck that is), but that was written for the people of the time, and this is a copy of a copy and a translation of a translation, and this translation is more accurate and sensible to contemporary readers anyway, and who's to say my interpretation is wrong and not divinely inspired? If you say that, you're just a big satan who's going to hell.