(July 10, 2015 at 9:16 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote:(July 10, 2015 at 8:04 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: you are taking something that is meant to be self giving and using it on your own self rather than as a self gift for the one you love.
So, what about mutual masturbation for the viewing pleasure of the other? Is that out as well? After all, it's still something that's "self giving," as you put it.
No, that is moral.
It is being used in the context of self giving love between husband and wife to "set the mood" and make it a more enjoyable experience. Nothing wrong with that.

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