(July 11, 2015 at 8:43 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Basically, these fools are saying even if they see God personally they still wouldn't accept him.... where's the logic in that?
It's simple, so I understand why you wouldn't get it: if we see that god exists, that alone is not a reason to accept him as our lord and superior. The authority that you grant him is not some automatic assumption that's going to pop into our head the moment we're given sufficient evidence of existence. No, that authority will be conferred based on consideration of his actions, goals and beliefs, and if we're to take the bible as an accurate representation of these, then we simply cannot allow god that authority over our lives based on our consciences. It would be wrong, according to my, and the others', morals to do so.
See, it's a bottom up process, ascertaining what role this god plays in reality, and to us personally: existence, then attributes, then the nature of our relationship going forward. You can't assume the latter two stages without the first, and all three stages require due consideration and may, in fact, produce conclusions that differ from your own. You seem to be blaming us for not, as you have done, operating backwards, by deciding on the relationship first, cooking the books so that the attributes are consistent with that relationship, and then just assuming existence.
Quote:This proves there is something else behind their "atheism" other than simply "having no belief"
What it proves is that you have a complete inability to think beyond the confines of the position you've already accepted as true. That's not surprising: I already suspect you're basically a sociopath.
Oh, but Randy? Don't think I missed you agreeing with this louse back there. That's disappointing; we might disagree, but I always figured you as having some modicum of intelligence to go with that. Are you seriously telling me that the only possible reaction to god existing you can envision is automatic worship? Despite having a holy book that literally includes characters that have other reactions than that?
Satan, for one? Are you honestly telling me that you've forgotten the second (arguably third, depending on how one views Jesus) most important character in your own holy book?
"YOU take the hard look in the mirror. You are everything that is wrong with this world. The only thing important to you, is you." - ronedee
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