(July 13, 2015 at 2:03 am)bennyboy Wrote:(July 12, 2015 at 10:07 pm)paulpablo Wrote: "The cat sat in the hat" Doesn't contradict the teachings of modern science, because cats can sit in hats, but it isn't a miracle, NOT contradicting science doesn't mean something is a miracle.
Here's this thread in a nutshell: Harris is taking things we already know well, and claiming that past knowledge according with current knowledge is a miracle.
To prove a miracle, Harris must do the following: 1) show something that does NOT accord with science in the Quran; 2) show that it is true. This is my criterion for consideration for miracle (really, just a meaning): that something contradict all we know and believe, and can be shown to be true.
By your own definition a miracle is impossible even to imagine, whereas a Christian would say Jesus coming down from the sky to raise the dead and take us into heaven would be a miracle, but that can be thought of. You can depict in your mind Jesus doing all those things. You can imagine a dead person coming out of a tomb. Hell, you see it on TV all the time. You can imagine heaven as some sort of place where ancient greeks used to chill out.