Atheism; the next step

[Cerrone]

You said it yourself. Similar within the group. There are an awful lot of groups out there and similar is not identical.

There may be a lot of groups, but there isn't an infinite number... and the number certianly isn't too large to accurately take into account.

Because there is no god to make sure we're perfect. Because we are effected by genes, illness, tragedy, bad education, etc.

You think that only a god can create perfection? Or since you claim to be an atheist and don't believe in a god, you therefore think that perfection itself doesn't exist. In other words.. you've already given up hope for perfection.

...that is just depressing to hear a defined atheist talk like that. It reminds me of a muslim friend of mine who denounced his faith and OD'd on cocaine a month later because the fucking guy was too stupid to realise that he didn't need a god or religious rules to have a reason for living... and frankly that kind of attitude is disgusting and symptom of a deep seated inferiority complex.

Just because there IS NO GOD it doesnt mean we as humans can't strive to be better.. and genetics, illness, tragedy and bad education are no excuse for anything except giving up.

Yes, you are. You are trying to make everyone else like you. There are so many things wrong with that.

You said

What is it that you propose people do? Also, are you doing that thing? If not, why don't you lead by example? Berating people into doing "something" isn't effective. Personally, I'm unmoved. I think I will sit here doing "nothing."

To which I replied

I propose people evaluate the actions of their behaviour, become aware of the long term negative consequences that is caused by getting short term gains and modify their behaviour and actions so that they aren't causing bad things to happen around them. And to become aware of where they are historically in the big picture of humanity, and just how their lives could be so much better if they put some effort into it.

I fail to see how i'm trying to make people like me. You just assume egomania because i've done the socially unthinkable thing of asking people to take responsibility for themselves.

In any case... thanks for lowering my estimation of atheists with the god comment above.

EDIT! and i can't believe somebody gave you kudos for that. Utterly pathetic.