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Can an atheist be ethical like theists
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RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists
(July 15, 2015 at 7:25 pm)huss88ein Wrote: For stater the sense of morality has been rationalized in older societies by a religious foundations and with the absence of these foundations what is forbidding people from being unethical? what is the determinant for right and wrong if not relegion ?


This is how I determine right from wrong.

All humans live in the same physical universe, subject to the same physical laws, with (more or less) the same physical bodies.

From this, I can easily extrapolate that the things that I need in order to have well being and to thrive, are almost assuredly (with few exceptions) the same thing the rest of humanity also needs for their well being.

In other words, life is preferable to death, freedom is preferable to slavery, health is preferable to disease, comfort is preferable to discomfort, etc. 

All I need from there, is a bit of empathy and rationality.

Let me ask you something. If you did not have your religion, would you be our murdering, raping, stealing, torturing?

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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Can an atheist be ethical like theists - by huss88ein - July 15, 2015 at 7:25 pm
RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists - by Cato - July 17, 2015 at 9:26 am
RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists - by Jenny A - July 15, 2015 at 8:54 pm
RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists - by brewer - July 15, 2015 at 9:16 pm
RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists - by JuliaL - July 15, 2015 at 10:01 pm
RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists - by huss88ein - July 15, 2015 at 10:23 pm
RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists - by JuliaL - July 15, 2015 at 10:55 pm
RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists - by Simon Moon - July 15, 2015 at 10:25 pm
RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists - by huss88ein - July 15, 2015 at 10:30 pm
RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists - by Dystopia - July 15, 2015 at 10:42 pm
RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists - by Dystopia - July 15, 2015 at 11:02 pm
RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists - by Silver - July 15, 2015 at 10:36 pm
RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists - by Angrboda - July 15, 2015 at 10:36 pm
RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists - by Dystopia - July 15, 2015 at 10:37 pm
RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists - by huss88ein - July 15, 2015 at 10:44 pm
RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists - by Dystopia - July 15, 2015 at 11:05 pm
Can an atheist be ethical like theists - by huss88ein - July 15, 2015 at 10:56 pm
RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists - by huss88ein - July 15, 2015 at 11:01 pm
RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists - by huss88ein - July 15, 2015 at 11:10 pm
RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists - by huss88ein - July 15, 2015 at 11:20 pm
RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists - by ignoramus - July 15, 2015 at 11:23 pm
RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists - by huss88ein - July 15, 2015 at 11:24 pm
RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists - by huss88ein - July 15, 2015 at 11:34 pm
RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists - by huss88ein - July 15, 2015 at 11:41 pm
RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists - by huss88ein - July 15, 2015 at 11:43 pm
RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists - by huss88ein - July 15, 2015 at 11:47 pm
RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists - by huss88ein - July 15, 2015 at 11:57 pm
RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists - by huss88ein - July 16, 2015 at 12:00 am
RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists - by ignoramus - July 16, 2015 at 12:00 am
RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists - by huss88ein - July 16, 2015 at 12:04 am
RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists - by Spooky - July 16, 2015 at 12:21 am
RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists - by huss88ein - July 16, 2015 at 12:28 am
RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists - by Spooky - July 16, 2015 at 3:17 am
RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists - by huss88ein - July 16, 2015 at 12:40 am
RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists - by Spooky - July 16, 2015 at 3:38 am
RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists - by rado84 - July 16, 2015 at 4:16 am
RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists - by JuliaL - July 16, 2015 at 9:57 am
RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists - by robvalue - July 16, 2015 at 11:25 am
RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists - by huss88ein - July 17, 2015 at 11:16 am
RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists - by robvalue - July 17, 2015 at 11:32 am
RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists - by huss88ein - July 17, 2015 at 11:39 am
RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists - by Cato - July 17, 2015 at 3:29 pm
RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists - by huss88ein - July 17, 2015 at 12:11 pm
RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists - by robvalue - July 17, 2015 at 12:46 pm
RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists - by abaris - July 17, 2015 at 4:32 pm
RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists - by abaris - July 17, 2015 at 5:11 pm
RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists - by Brian37 - July 21, 2015 at 1:45 pm
RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists - by Arwa - July 31, 2015 at 4:26 am

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