(July 16, 2015 at 6:46 am)pocaracas Wrote:(July 15, 2015 at 6:59 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Worrrrrrd to the heathens!!![]()
So, do you think Jesus was a real person? I'm not asking if you think Jesus was divine, or if He performed miracles, or if He was crucified, died, and came back.
I'm simply asking if you think there was a man 2000ish years ago named Jesus who brought forth these new "ideas" that we now call Christianity.
As has been shown, the ideas were far from new - peace and harmony have always been the motto of the common folk; it's the leaders that keep wanting to have power.
If there was a person calling for peace and harmony in a province controlled by a foreign empire, with soldiers of that empire enforcing the empire's law, while telling the people that the established religious leadership is corrupt? most certainly, there have been quite a few such persons.
If one of them was called Jesus, or the hebrew equivalent name?... why not? even if no one by that name did those things, let's give him that name.
The dead sea scrolls speak of such a man, although they don't name him... these scrolls have been dated to early-to-mid 1st century BCE (or BC, if you prefer), so well before the commonly held birth of the Jesus guy... Just one more pebble of info telling you, at least, that such "ideas" were already being preached decades prior to the alleged life of the Jesus character.
(July 15, 2015 at 8:26 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I have another question, since it seems the majority of you don't think Jesus was any type of real person, does it bother you that much of the world uses His (supposed) birth to tell time?
I'm talking about the fact that we're in the year 2015... and anything before that is referred to as Before Christ? (BC)
The start of the numbering of the years is as arbitrary as they come... I'm fine with BC/AD (although, this makes little sense in english, what does AD mean?! shouldn't it be AC?), I'm fine with BCE/CE, I'm fine with Before Transistor/After Transistor (BT/AT), I'm fine with Before Poca/After Poca (BP/AP... I really like the sound of this one... I wonder why?)
It's latin. Stands for "Anno Domini", which translates to "Year of Our Lord."
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh