RE: What Human Rights?
July 19, 2015 at 2:52 pm
(This post was last modified: July 19, 2015 at 2:54 pm by Mudhammam.)
(July 19, 2015 at 9:29 am)Rhythm Wrote: I think that people are capable of having beliefs that happen to be theirs, but not on any basis that they should expect absolute consensus or even agreement, whilst I think people can hold opinions upon a basis which they just might expect -some- consensus and agreement. There's nothing stopping a person from holding their own opinions to the exclusion of contrary claims - but theres nothing preventing them from changing them when confronted with contrary claims, beliefs are in a similar position. As I said, not sure why we're still on about this because either word we choose to use we'd have been discussing the same relationship between the same concepts in the same context.The original point was whether or not disagreement between peoples regarding the morality of actions suggests that objective goods do not exist --- meaning that moral statements are just opinions with no truth value --- or if rather there are competing beliefs wherein some can truly be wrong to the exclusion of others. The only purpose of clarifying the semantic difference was that you seemed to misunderstand the distinction I was making in my response to the idea of relativism. If you can see that, it makes no difference to me whether you choose to call something an opinion or a belief, though I think the latter has connotations not attached to the former.
It was a semantic objection that led and will lead -nowhere-. You can call that my opinion or my belief, up to you.
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza