1984 & A/S/K revisited

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1984 & A/S/K revisited

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RE: 1984 & A/S/K revisited

April 11, 2013 at 6:21 pm

(April 11, 2013 at 6:05 pm)Undeceived Wrote:
(April 11, 2013 at 2:41 pm)Darkstar Wrote: He revealed himself plenty in the OT, why did he disappear before cameras (and significant scientific knowledge) came about?

If God revealed Himself physically today, unrepentant people's hearts would still be unrepentant. Half the Hebrews saw the Pillar of Fire and the parting of the Red Sea and turned right back around and crafted golden idols. The Old Testament is partly a record of what doesn't work. Hebrews with repentant hearts followed God, but the others didn't.

Oh, I thought you were going to say everyone would suddenly die. However, this sounds suspiciously close to the"they wouldn't believe my miracles anyway" excuse Mohammed gave.

(April 11, 2013 at 6:05 pm)Undeceived Wrote: With the Holy Spirit, repentant people learn the Message of Christ, while unrepentant people (who would reject it anyway) are left in the dark. Yes, there is a suspicious division. But God has always allowed unbelievers a "way out" of learning His mystery. In OT times, demons were more active, and so were the number of fake "gods". People (like half the Hebrews) could choose to follow another divinity. Today, unbelievers decide to follow presupposed science religiously. They are mirror images of each other. But the truth remains.

This cannot possibly be true. How is it that people who accept Jesus, and only give up on him much later when they can't find him, well...can't find him? If he had revealed himself once they accepted him, they would not have turned away. Unless you are going to propose that we should blindly believe anyway.

That, and your comment about science is poorly informed. What is presupposed, exactly? That science works? Well...it does. Otherwise we wouldn't be on this forum.

John Adams Wrote:The Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.

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1984 & A/S/K revisited - by FallentoReason - April 9, 2013 at 12:55 am

RE: 1984 & A/S/K revisited - by Undeceived - April 9, 2013 at 2:09 am

RE: 1984 & A/S/K revisited - by FallentoReason - April 9, 2013 at 2:13 am

RE: 1984 & A/S/K revisited - by Godschild - April 9, 2013 at 3:20 am

RE: 1984 & A/S/K revisited - by FallentoReason - April 9, 2013 at 3:31 am

RE: 1984 & A/S/K revisited - by Godschild - April 9, 2013 at 8:07 pm

RE: 1984 & A/S/K revisited - by Anomalocaris - April 10, 2013 at 1:13 pm

RE: 1984 & A/S/K revisited - by Drich - April 17, 2013 at 11:11 am

RE: 1984 & A/S/K revisited - by Esquilax - April 17, 2013 at 11:47 am

RE: 1984 & A/S/K revisited - by Undeceived - April 9, 2013 at 6:58 pm

RE: 1984 & A/S/K revisited - by FallentoReason - April 9, 2013 at 11:52 pm

RE: 1984 & A/S/K revisited - by Godschild - April 10, 2013 at 12:24 am

RE: 1984 & A/S/K revisited - by FallentoReason - April 10, 2013 at 12:44 am

RE: 1984 & A/S/K revisited - by Undeceived - April 10, 2013 at 1:01 am

RE: 1984 & A/S/K revisited - by FallentoReason - April 10, 2013 at 8:57 am

RE: 1984 & A/S/K revisited - by Undeceived - April 10, 2013 at 1:08 pm

RE: 1984 & A/S/K revisited - by Godschild - April 10, 2013 at 7:53 pm

RE: 1984 & A/S/K revisited - by Ryantology - April 10, 2013 at 9:03 pm

RE: 1984 & A/S/K revisited - by Godschild - April 11, 2013 at 4:01 am

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RE: 1984 & A/S/K revisited - by FallentoReason - April 11, 2013 at 5:48 am

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