Physicallity and Undetectibility
June 19, 2013 at 1:31 pm
(This post was last modified: June 19, 2013 at 1:32 pm by Baalzebutt.)
I would like to get some clarification on an issue that is raised around here from time to time.
When questioned about god, theists will tell you that god is not perceivable in a traditional/physical sense. He is a being that is outside space/time and therefore cannot be tested, measured or falsified. In short, science doesn't work on god.
When questioned about miracles, the theists will inevitably agree that they do occur and that god does work in our lives. Determining what constitutes a miracle is another discussion altogether but suffice it to say, there is some disagreement on the subject.
In any case, here is the problem: You claim that your god is beyond the realm of science yet you claim that miracles happen every day, right here in the real world. Things that occur in the real world ARE TESTABLE BY SCIENCE.
So how is it that god is undetectable to science but his actions (miracles) are testable? And why is it that in the entire history of mankind, not a single "miracle" has ever been proven to be an actual miracle?
When questioned about god, theists will tell you that god is not perceivable in a traditional/physical sense. He is a being that is outside space/time and therefore cannot be tested, measured or falsified. In short, science doesn't work on god.
When questioned about miracles, the theists will inevitably agree that they do occur and that god does work in our lives. Determining what constitutes a miracle is another discussion altogether but suffice it to say, there is some disagreement on the subject.
In any case, here is the problem: You claim that your god is beyond the realm of science yet you claim that miracles happen every day, right here in the real world. Things that occur in the real world ARE TESTABLE BY SCIENCE.
So how is it that god is undetectable to science but his actions (miracles) are testable? And why is it that in the entire history of mankind, not a single "miracle" has ever been proven to be an actual miracle?
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." -Einstein
