(November 7, 2013 at 11:51 am)Drich Wrote: Indeed. In the Graphic left by thomas The bible is the proof of God. I said God is the 'proof' of the bible. Do you know the difference here?
Yes. I also understand that you didn't come up with Yahweh yourself, nor did you have an experience of Yahweh that pre-dates your "learning" about him from the Bible. Doubting Thomas's point stands.
(November 7, 2013 at 11:51 am)Drich Wrote: Actually no. Jesus said those in this world, this life Hate God, and if He was not spared from suffering, that 'we' can not expect to be spared either.
*shrug* I never needed the Gospels to figure out that people suffer.
(November 7, 2013 at 11:51 am)Drich Wrote: What better proof of you is there than you? Or if you perfer what 'proof' can there be, of you that does not point to you? If these 'proofs' all point to you, then what better proof is there of you, than you?
God offers The Holy Spirit (Himself) as proof for all who Ask, Seek, Knock as outlined in Luke 11.
So again In deceptivly simple terms, God is the proof of God.
Funny. I have a Muslim acquaintance who says much the same thing but without the specifically Christian talking point. It's so hard to decide which fantasist to believe!
(November 7, 2013 at 11:51 am)Drich Wrote:Maybe next time ask a question if you can not see the subtleties mentioned. Don't just assume that they are not there simply because you do not understand them or see them.
Oh, I understand mendacity quite well, thanks.
