Quote:Everytime sex/porn is brought up and Pippy announces he does not care for some aspect of it, he gets accused of not or never having fulfilling relationships.Hey, thanks. It is nice of you to say that that is unfair. I didn't get it either, that if I dislike porn I must be sexually unhealthy. I thought liking porn made you unhealthy.
Not fair to the Pip.
Quote:I explained to you that rudeness does not impose on others' rights, but Christianity in the U.S. does.Rudeness does impose on others, that is the nature of it being rude. May be your first amendment right to say and think what you will trumps someone elses supposed (but not amended) right to not be offended. But isn't it a double standard? Christianity is annoying and in your face. So these Atheists from Bean Town are annoying and in your face. And I point out, 'hey those guys are being annoying on purpose', and it seems your response is 'Christians are asshole too!'. I know that this group isn't you, and that some college kids in Mass don't represent atheism proper, that it is much looser than that. It just reminds me of the post from a while ago that showed the prank callers. Someone wrote "We need more people like that in the world", and I was flabbergasted. We need more people willing to put it all on the line, to take a risk and make a prank phone call. It seems that immaturity and silliness are commendable if they are on your side of the argument.
Quote:Specifically, what would you do?If I were them, I would trade bibles for Dawkins <shudder>. Something that didn't tie my beliefs in with immorality and smut. If I were really them I would be happy to respect others beliefs. If I were really, really them I would realize that there is no way that this reality came into existence by sheer chance alone, and I would convert from atheism...
Quote:I don't understand. Are you gay?No. I find most sex disgusting. Not just peeing on people, or this infamous guys and cups thing. The way people act at the bar, like rutting animals. The way people compromise themselves just to feel good, to pretend to be loved. I know a very lot about unhealthy relationships with objects, being a lay Buddhist and an ex drug addict. Modern sex is a drug. You do it as much as possible. You can get books to help you do it better. I try to leave sex where is belongs, sacred sharing, and making babies. Sex is far to serious to be a game. And then there's dominance for the sake of dominance... I just don't like porn. It demeans the actor, sure, but most importantly it affects your neurology in a negative way. But I remember how this goes. If you guys love porn, and can't even understand how some of us would think there is anything wrong with it, please feel free.
Quote:It was all about attention and sensationalism, which apparently you miscontrue as a bunch of atheists just being rude to christians. I'll make it clear that I wouldn't do so myself, and I don't support them. I'm telling you what the desired effect was.I don't think they're being rude for the sake of being rude, but then again... The desired effect was to get a rise, I know. They did, I know. But can't I scoff at that?
Quote:Evidence for the contrary?Why would I give evidence to the contrary if I was in agreement with you?
Quote:I don't understand why you say it dehumanizes the person when they're willing to do so.It is not whether or not they are willing. That most porn (and here, like with my hating TV and other things, I have to admit my knowledge of the subject) is about male dominance. Fucking the shit out of a girl. Girls love giving head, they can even reach orgasm. You girlfriend should be lucky enough to get to give you head. Girls like going ass to mouth. Oh wait, it's probably abhorrent to them, but the man makes them do it anyways. Dominance. That is not teaching you to be a better lover. Porn desensitizes you neural response to sex, thereby making sex less enjoyable, not more so. Porn objectifies the woman (and the man), thereby teaching you unhealthy standards, again not really helping in the bedroom. Porn is the best example of the mental effect and damage that the invention of moving pictures can create.
I hate porn because it is clearly a weapon. It was a poor idea in the past, but now it is designed to do as much damage to the minds of young people as possible. Go do some research about porn addiction, or just porn in general. The whole thing about 'I use to like dykes, but now I've progressed to dog on dog action'. Why are people watching more and more sicker and sicker porn? Not because it is opening their horizons, but because they need to push harder to release the brain chemicals they want. Very clearly an unhealthy relationship with an object.
Thank you.
