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"The Four Horsemen"
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RE: "The Four Horsemen"
(July 13, 2015 at 1:36 pm)excitedpenguin Wrote:
(July 13, 2015 at 1:33 pm)Dystopia Wrote: I prefer Freud.

Try Nietzsche, you amateur.

I've been thinking about reading more Nietzsche for a long time but his mustache is a huge turn off.

Seriously though, I've only read The God Delusion, I didn't find it as interesting or intellectually solid as many atheists - I like all of them, they make good points, but I disagree with many things, specifically on how some atheists see them as authorities and quote their arguments all the time. Here's me opinion on the best and worst of three authors (i've never read or watched Dennet so I can't comment on his reputation and skills)

Dawkins --> The best thing about this man is how he debunks the idea that religious belief and religion is special and deserves respect regardless of how rational or good it is. I think this is Dawkins strongest argument about religion and it has affected my way of thinking - Indeed, religion gets excessive respect for wrong or non-existent reasons. I fundamentally agree with him on that and I think he also makes good points on basic anti-theist arguments and debunking fallacies. I think he goes to far when he basically says that religion is equivalent to mental illness or that it is the predominant cause of evil around the world, or even that everything about religion is bad. He makes dumb statements on social issues as well, but that's not relevant right?

Hitchens - Makes excellent arguments for free speech V. religion and a good case on how religion has affected (even for non-believers) our culture and conditioned how we feel about many issues, even if we don't realize it ourselves. He also makes a good case for misotheism (Being against a god if he existed). His worst problem is the degree of anti-theism, but I guess it would be boring if he was super nice, right?

Harris - I love his arguments on religious morality and how there are evolutionary reasons for morality, I also think he makes good critiques on religious morality and interesting approaches on how theists' mind/brain work. He exaggerates when he promotes the idea that Islam is a unique special religion and that it is infinitely  worse than any other regardless of the circumstances. Islam is a religion with terrible things and good things, like any other, it causes harm and causes good.
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you

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"The Four Horsemen" - by Excited Penguin - July 9, 2015 at 4:15 pm
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by Excited Penguin - July 9, 2015 at 8:23 pm
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by Jenny A - July 13, 2015 at 12:15 pm
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by Excited Penguin - July 13, 2015 at 12:35 pm
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by Minimalist - July 9, 2015 at 8:26 pm
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by rexbeccarox - July 10, 2015 at 2:28 am
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by Excited Penguin - July 10, 2015 at 2:38 am
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by Napoléon - July 10, 2015 at 6:30 am
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by rexbeccarox - July 10, 2015 at 2:45 am
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by Excited Penguin - July 10, 2015 at 2:50 am
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by rexbeccarox - July 10, 2015 at 3:23 am
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by Excited Penguin - July 10, 2015 at 3:45 am
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by rado84 - July 10, 2015 at 3:34 am
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by ignoramus - July 10, 2015 at 3:37 am
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by rado84 - July 10, 2015 at 3:57 am
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by abaris - July 10, 2015 at 3:59 am
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by TubbyTubby - July 10, 2015 at 6:56 am
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by Excited Penguin - July 10, 2015 at 7:02 am
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by Napoléon - July 10, 2015 at 7:25 am
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by Excited Penguin - July 10, 2015 at 8:44 am
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by Exian - July 10, 2015 at 7:44 am
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by Excited Penguin - July 10, 2015 at 10:30 am
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by Salacious B. Crumb - July 11, 2015 at 4:23 am
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by Excited Penguin - July 11, 2015 at 8:23 am
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by QuarkDriven - July 13, 2015 at 11:50 am
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by abaris - July 13, 2015 at 2:23 pm
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by QuarkDriven - July 13, 2015 at 2:41 pm
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by Dystopia - July 13, 2015 at 1:33 pm
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by Excited Penguin - July 13, 2015 at 1:36 pm
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by Pizza - July 13, 2015 at 1:55 pm
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by Excited Penguin - July 13, 2015 at 2:49 pm
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by Pizza - July 13, 2015 at 4:48 pm
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by Dystopia - July 13, 2015 at 5:04 pm
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by Mudhammam - July 13, 2015 at 5:13 pm
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by Excited Penguin - July 14, 2015 at 1:25 am
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by Mudhammam - July 14, 2015 at 7:05 am
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by Dystopia - July 14, 2015 at 7:55 am
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by Mudhammam - July 14, 2015 at 8:40 am
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by Dystopia - July 14, 2015 at 2:31 pm
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by Excited Penguin - July 14, 2015 at 12:58 pm
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by abaris - July 14, 2015 at 1:20 pm
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by Excited Penguin - July 14, 2015 at 1:37 pm
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by abaris - July 14, 2015 at 2:03 pm
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by Excited Penguin - July 14, 2015 at 2:16 pm
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by abaris - July 14, 2015 at 3:36 pm
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by Excited Penguin - July 14, 2015 at 3:40 pm
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by abaris - July 14, 2015 at 3:45 pm
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by Mudhammam - July 14, 2015 at 3:07 pm
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by Excited Penguin - July 14, 2015 at 3:27 pm
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by Mudhammam - July 14, 2015 at 3:47 pm
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by Excited Penguin - July 14, 2015 at 3:50 pm
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by Mudhammam - July 14, 2015 at 4:16 pm
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by Excited Penguin - July 14, 2015 at 4:22 pm
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by Dystopia - July 14, 2015 at 3:29 pm
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by Excited Penguin - July 14, 2015 at 3:35 pm
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by Dystopia - July 13, 2015 at 2:48 pm
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by Mudhammam - July 13, 2015 at 4:55 pm
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by Neo-Scholastic - July 13, 2015 at 3:23 pm
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by Dystopia - July 13, 2015 at 3:27 pm
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by Mudhammam - July 13, 2015 at 3:38 pm
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by Excited Penguin - July 13, 2015 at 3:50 pm
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by Mudhammam - July 13, 2015 at 4:39 pm
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by Excited Penguin - July 13, 2015 at 4:54 pm
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by Mudhammam - July 13, 2015 at 4:56 pm
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by Pizza - July 13, 2015 at 5:03 pm
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by Mudhammam - July 13, 2015 at 5:08 pm
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by Cato - July 14, 2015 at 1:56 am
RE: "The Four Horsemen" - by Excited Penguin - July 14, 2015 at 2:07 am

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