RE: Worthy of worship, free will?
October 12, 2015 at 7:11 am
(This post was last modified: October 12, 2015 at 7:18 am by Edwardo Piet.)
*biggest facepalm ever*
Is that seriously supposed to be taken seriously?
Libertarian Free will isn't even a coherent concept.
You chose the snickers bar for reasons you had. You had motives. And where did those motives come from? Perhaps more motives and reasons you had, but somewhere along the line the causes stretch back beyond your motives and reasons and the buck never stops. It goes back to the beginning of the universe the causal chain never ends until we reach the very beginning of time.
That's determinism for you.
As for indeterminism that adds a random element and rolling a bunch of dice doesn't get you free will either.
A combination of the two if that were possible? Ok so now you are ultimately caused by other things beyond your control but you also get to roll the dice to decide for you every so often? How does that help?
There is no escaping the trap of reality.
Libertarian free will is completely incoherent. Free will isn't even an illusion because if you pay attention to the "illusion" you're not even seeing or feeling the freedom you think you are. Libertarian free will is not only completely impossible but a universe can't even be described where it is possible.
To paraphrase Sam Harris, to say we could have done otherwise had we wanted to ultimately comes down to merely saying we could have lived in a different universe had we lived in a different universe.
Is that seriously supposed to be taken seriously?
Libertarian Free will isn't even a coherent concept.
You chose the snickers bar for reasons you had. You had motives. And where did those motives come from? Perhaps more motives and reasons you had, but somewhere along the line the causes stretch back beyond your motives and reasons and the buck never stops. It goes back to the beginning of the universe the causal chain never ends until we reach the very beginning of time.
That's determinism for you.
As for indeterminism that adds a random element and rolling a bunch of dice doesn't get you free will either.
A combination of the two if that were possible? Ok so now you are ultimately caused by other things beyond your control but you also get to roll the dice to decide for you every so often? How does that help?
There is no escaping the trap of reality.
Libertarian free will is completely incoherent. Free will isn't even an illusion because if you pay attention to the "illusion" you're not even seeing or feeling the freedom you think you are. Libertarian free will is not only completely impossible but a universe can't even be described where it is possible.
To paraphrase Sam Harris, to say we could have done otherwise had we wanted to ultimately comes down to merely saying we could have lived in a different universe had we lived in a different universe.
