(September 20, 2015 at 2:41 pm)robvalue Wrote: That's a great quote RS. Some theists are basically saying they are psychopaths on an invisible leash. I don't believe they really are, but they've been brow beaten into believing it about themselves. It's really sad.
Agreed, and that's exactly how I see such statements.
When talking about famous atheists, we tend to refer to authors and/or scientists, but they're not the only ones out there.
Two atheists I find shockingly intelligent and eloquent in their understanding of the world are Penn Jillette and Marilyn Manson. Every time I read an interview they give, I'm awed.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
