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Jefferson's Bible
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RE: Jefferson's Bible
(July 1, 2016 at 4:58 pm)Irrational Wrote:
(July 1, 2016 at 4:21 pm)Lek Wrote: Whoever wrote the Gospel of John also wrote 1, 2 and 3 John and obviously lived at the time of Jesus and was close to him.  This is evident in reading the first four verses of 1 John.

1 John 1English Standard Version (ESV)

The Word of Life
1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we looked upon and have touched with our hands, concerning the word of life— 2 the life was made manifest, and we have seen it, and testify to it and proclaim to you the eternal life, which was with the Father and was made manifest to us— 3 that which we have seen and heard we proclaim also to you, so that you too may have fellowship with us; and indeed our fellowship is with the Father and with his Son Jesus Christ. 4 And we are writing these things so that our[a] joy may be complete.

No, Lek, no. I asked two questions, neither of which you gave a proper answer to. All you did was post a passage that doesn't really show that it was written by John and not someone else.

I think one could make a fair case that at least 1 John comes from the community of believers for whom the fourth Gospel was written. But I don't think one can go much further than that. I certainly don't jump to the conclusion that the authors are the same person. Then again, I'm not desperate to avoid admitting that much of my holy book comes down to hearsay.
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Jefferson's Bible - by Darwins Disciple - June 29, 2016 at 12:03 am
RE: Jefferson's Bible - by SteelCurtain - June 29, 2016 at 12:28 am
RE: Jefferson's Bible - by The Grand Nudger - June 29, 2016 at 12:29 am
RE: Jefferson's Bible - by dyresand - June 29, 2016 at 1:15 am
RE: Jefferson's Bible - by chimp3 - June 29, 2016 at 4:21 am
RE: Jefferson's Bible - by dyresand - June 29, 2016 at 2:01 pm
RE: Jefferson's Bible - by Lek - June 30, 2016 at 12:40 pm
RE: Jefferson's Bible - by Drich - June 29, 2016 at 2:06 pm
RE: Jefferson's Bible - by Crossless1 - June 29, 2016 at 3:25 pm
RE: Jefferson's Bible - by Drich - June 30, 2016 at 9:38 am
RE: Jefferson's Bible - by Joods - June 30, 2016 at 3:51 pm
RE: Jefferson's Bible - by The Grand Nudger - June 29, 2016 at 3:29 pm
RE: Jefferson's Bible - by Drich - June 30, 2016 at 9:41 am
RE: Jefferson's Bible - by Spirian - June 29, 2016 at 3:32 pm
RE: Jefferson's Bible - by Drich - June 30, 2016 at 10:57 am
RE: Jefferson's Bible - by Spirian - June 30, 2016 at 12:58 pm
RE: Jefferson's Bible - by Minimalist - June 30, 2016 at 12:44 pm
RE: Jefferson's Bible - by Lek - June 30, 2016 at 3:20 pm
RE: Jefferson's Bible - by Minimalist - June 30, 2016 at 3:27 pm
RE: Jefferson's Bible - by Lek - June 30, 2016 at 3:32 pm
RE: Jefferson's Bible - by dyresand - June 30, 2016 at 9:02 pm
RE: Jefferson's Bible - by Minimalist - June 30, 2016 at 3:36 pm
RE: Jefferson's Bible - by Lek - June 30, 2016 at 3:45 pm
RE: Jefferson's Bible - by Crossless1 - June 30, 2016 at 4:05 pm
RE: Jefferson's Bible - by The Grand Nudger - June 30, 2016 at 4:44 pm
RE: Jefferson's Bible - by Lek - June 30, 2016 at 8:00 pm
RE: Jefferson's Bible - by Esquilax - July 1, 2016 at 12:35 am
RE: Jefferson's Bible - by Grandizer - July 1, 2016 at 12:43 am
RE: Jefferson's Bible - by Lek - July 1, 2016 at 4:21 pm
RE: Jefferson's Bible - by Wyrd of Gawd - July 1, 2016 at 4:44 pm
RE: Jefferson's Bible - by Grandizer - July 1, 2016 at 4:58 pm
RE: Jefferson's Bible - by Crossless1 - July 1, 2016 at 5:06 pm
RE: Jefferson's Bible - by Grandizer - July 1, 2016 at 5:09 pm
RE: Jefferson's Bible - by Faith No More - June 30, 2016 at 8:47 pm
RE: Jefferson's Bible - by The Grand Nudger - July 1, 2016 at 12:23 am
RE: Jefferson's Bible - by Minimalist - July 1, 2016 at 1:29 am
RE: Jefferson's Bible - by Lek - July 1, 2016 at 4:35 pm
RE: Jefferson's Bible - by Minimalist - July 4, 2016 at 4:01 pm
RE: Jefferson's Bible - by The Grand Nudger - July 1, 2016 at 5:30 pm

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