RE: The Big Debate -- Price versus Ehrman
November 26, 2016 at 2:21 am
(This post was last modified: November 26, 2016 at 2:23 am by Minimalist.)
(November 25, 2016 at 9:15 pm)Jehanne Wrote:(November 25, 2016 at 8:20 pm)Minimalist Wrote: So I suspect that what we have here is more of the customary xtian circular reasoning. "Paul" HAD to live in the first century AD therefore he must have been referring to Aretas IV who we know died in 40 AD. Therefore the Romans "MUST" have given the city to Aretas IV because FUCKING ST PAUL could never be wrong." It's bullshit, of course, with nothing except the ravings of jesus freak maniacs to back it up.
I am certainly not claiming that Paul was accurate in everything that he wrote; however, the scholarly consensus is that Josephus referenced Jesus explicitly, Christian interpolations notwithstanding:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus_on_Jesus
Are you at all interested in having your opinion challenged or are you just wasting my time?
(November 25, 2016 at 11:32 pm)Jehanne Wrote:(November 25, 2016 at 10:02 pm)abaris Wrote: The idea is not as far fetched if you go by the narrative. According to the gospels he's inciting unrest, calls himself King of the Jews, throws the money lenders out of the temple. If that had been true, the Romans would have done away with him swiftly. If it had been true, that is. But it wouldn't have gone down in accordance with the narrative, since for one there wouldn't have been any involvement of the priests, who were just Roman puppets, and secondly it would have left at least some traces in Roman records. Other, again according to the narrative, less important figures have. Also the grave story is entirely out of the window, since someone deserving of cruzifixion would have been thrown into the nearest ditch. After having been left to rot for a few months at the very least.
The Romans rarely mentioned anyone that they crucified, out of the many thousands who they put to death. Jesus was a trouble-maker, an inciter of riots during the Passover, an out-of-town stranger with delusions of grandeur. It did not take the Romans long to make an example out of him, something that they did almost daily.
And the evidence for that exists no where except in your useless gospel tale. Truly, there is only 1. Mark. The others are merely fan fics built on that.
I think your gosples are a worthless pile of shit in a historical sense. Now where do you want to go?
