Riots in the UK?

[Cerrone]

I'm a student, my friends are students, many of us support the motivations behind the 'protest' and the right to protest.

However, sine the riots even the Student population is slightly disheartened. Not because of how they were treated, No, because of how a minority of their number devalued the entire affair.

Then you and you're friends are part of the problem, not the solution. Your narrowminded attempts to prove how civilised you can be only allows yourselves to be used as tools and door mats for anybody who decides to push you around, because you aren't going to do anything to defend yourselves and you rely on the power of remote government and police to protect yourself.. and if they decide not to help you, then you're fucked.

Me and Adrian may disagree about the implementation of these methods BUT he is spot on the money when he says that what those few did was inexcusable.

Why you little worm you.. lolz

Also, many of the people I've spoken to since the event have shown the same turn away from the student cause. Is this because of the media portrayl? Possibly. The overwhelming opinion however, is that those activities were wrong and as such the publics view of this issue has changed.

Possibly? Try "obviously". Not everyone is so dumb downed to the point that they take the media seriously, but it's the case that if you bombard everybody with enough anti-whatever propaganda for a prolonged period of time they'll eventually start to beleive it. Look at how so many americans hate muslims now, or how they hated the communists at one time.

To be honest though, students and younger generations are a slightly different case when it comes to the media- it's not simply that they believe something when it's pushed on them, quite the opposite sometimes, they're young impressionable people who want to have a world view, but the only place they go to "research the facts" are from facets of the media, so the eventually fall for the same bullshit that other people do. My advice would be, as always, gain some perspective about what you're talking about before asserting your right to an opinion.

Obviously your view of activism is confined to the great struggles of history. In fact the zeitgeist is changing, the majority want peacefull protests and political action to acheive their goals. It is the anarchist few who delay this process by disrupting the efforts of others.

Confined to the great struggles of history? Hmm! I'd say that your view of activism is confined to the last 20 years, whereas my view draws from experiences over the last 200,000 years of our entire human history.. and historically peaceful protest achieves nothing by itself, which is why historically peaceful protest tends to evolve into direct action and then revolution.

But you guys are afraid of taking direct action, and you're damn sure to diseffected to consider revolution, and the policitians know this. They take comfort in the fact that you guys won't do anything, so they let you march and wave your banners for a day and they continue going about their business for the next year regardless of anything you did.

Because it ended so well for Cromwell?

Oh god no, he was a complete bastard. But he had the balls to take a squad of soldiers and storm parliament, good for him!


Cheers angel