(March 27, 2018 at 11:50 am)Aegon Wrote: I don't understand how people don't understand that human beings hold value by default. Just... being alive and experiencing stimuli is enough. You don't need to qualify it or prove it. It's strange to me that people feel that they have to.
The thing is we are all seeing the same thing when we believe in value, love, goodness, praise. The question is, who is best describing it, and who is being honest about it and who is denying it's essential nature.
If a soul exists, we are a soul, and it' sufficient to know we are a soul by our experience. True. Same with value, same with praise... But at a certain point, we have to question, which framework works with what we are seeing.
Does the Atheist framework work with what we are experiencing in the human experience.
If you can show it works. You will shatter my faith.